Part-12: About "ECHION" and some words related to it

Part-12: About "ECHION" and some words related to it


In a discussion group,,
Johan August Jadinge Alm asked about the etymology of five words
(Chthonius, Echion, Hyperenor, Pelorus, and Udaeus) to which another
member of the group, Larry Rafey, responded by defining them. The
original author also requested additional views.

Since I am presently dealing with ancient Greek related subjects, I
thought it would be helpful to examine and explain some of these words.

My response for ECHION and some words related to it are given in this
essay. Those people reading my writings for the first time will find
it very different and quite startling. I want my readers to know that
the things that I am writing are not with mal intensions against
anyone. We are only trying to find out the truth about the source of
Indo-European languages.

LD Rafey said: "Echion is derived from Echinos meaning sea urchin or viper."

The English term "viper" defines a snake, but the term "sea urchin"
defines a spiny sea being. SEA URCHIN is defined as: "any of a class
(ECHINOIDEA) of ECHINODERM, especially, one of somewhat flattened
globular form having a thin brittle shell covered with movable
spines". [98]

This sea animal looks very much like a hedgehog or a bundle of

My dictionary under the name URCHIN, 4th and 5th entries, gives the
following definitions: "4. Archaic, A hedgehog. 5. An elf, as often
assuming the form of a hedgehog." [99]

An elf is a fairy, nymph or sprite. Hence a nymph assuming the form of
a hedgehog must be a personification of a hedgehog in ancient
mythology. A hedgehog is defined as: "a) Any of the genus (ERINACEUS)
of Old World, nocturnal, insectivorous mammals having both hair and
spines which they present outwardly by rolling themselves up. b) In
America, the PORCUPINE." [100]

The term "ECHINO" (vocalized as "ekino") is defined as: "combining
form meaning "spiny"; "prickly": echinoderm. [from Greek "echinos"
hedgehog]." [101]

These Greek appearing words, in actuality, are not as "Greek" as they
appear. I have analyzed hundreds of greek word and discovered that
they are really manufactured words-their source being Turkish words
and phrases whose letters have been rearranged, embellished and
disguised to produce a "Greek" looking word which is then sold to the
world as "Greek" words with Greek etymology. The term ECHINODERM is
such a word.

ECHINODERM is defined as meaning "spiny, prickly skin". When the term
ECHINODERM (vocalized as "ekinoderm"), is rearranged letter-by-letter
as "DEROM HICEN" or "HEROM DICEN", where letter the letter C is
actually a "K" sound, It turns out to be a distortion of the Turkish
expression "DERUM DIKEN" (DERIM DIKEN) meaning "my skin is thorns".
Turkish word "DERI" means "SKIN". Thus, this term describes in
Turkish a spiny exterior of an animal who has such a skin. This
explains the hedgehog, sea urchin and the urchin concepts associated
with the Greek "ECHINO" defined in dictionaries and attributed to
Greek origin. In actuality the source is Turkish as I have just
demonstrated. In this ECHINODERM anagram (i.e., ciphering, encoding)
the letter H is bogus and replaces a "D" from the original Turkish
expression. Thus the term ECHINODERM has been manufactured from a
pilfered Turkish phrase rather than being Greek in origin.

Similarly there is the term "ECHINODERMAL" supposedly made up from
ECHINODERM. When ECHINODERMAL is rearranged letter-by-letter as
"HERAM-DICENLO" or "DERIM HECANLO" where C is K, it is distortion of
Turkish expression "DERIM DIKENLU" (DERIM DIKENLI) meaning "my skin is
with thorns, pricks", for example, like a "sea urchin", or like a
"hedgehog". The suffix "-AL appearing at the end of the word
ECHINODERMAL is actually the distorted form of the Turkish suffix -LU
or -LI meaning "with". Thus the whole word is a restructured and
disguised form of this Turkish expression, and the source of the word
is not Greek as linguists believe but rather Turkish. This revelation
is contrary to all the "linguistic" knowledge that have been dispensed
to the public at large.

Even the term PRICKLY, when rearranged letter-by-letter as "KIRP-CLY"
is an anagram of Turkish expression "KIRPI-KILU" (kirpi kili) meaning
"hair of hedgehog" referring to the needle-like or thorn-like prickly
hairs on the back of a hedgehog. The Turkish word "KIRPI" is the name
for "hedgehog" and "KIL" means "hair". The term "prickly" describes
the thorny hair of the hedgehog and also that of ECHIDNA but the
source of the word is Turkish , not English.

HEDGEHOG, when rearranged letter-by-letter as "OG-EGHEDH" is an
anagram of Turkish expression "OK-IGNEDI" meaning "it is arrow and
needle" which a "hedgehog" skin is. Some hedgehogs shoot their
needles like an arrow or a dart. It is the multi-identity Greek letter
"H" that disguises the Turkish word "OK-IGNEDI" into English

ECHIDNA (ekidna) is a hedgehog like mammal. ECHIDNA is defined as: "An
egg laying monotreme (family Tachyglossidae) of Australia, Tasmania,
and New Guinea, having a worm like tongue, long snout, digging claws,
and strong spines intermixed with fur: also called "porcupine
anteater", "spiny anteater", [from Greek "viper"]. [102]

Thus we find that the term "viper" has two meanings: in one it is a
"snake" and in the other it is a "porcupine" or "hedgehog". But the
Greek word "VIPER" seems very much an anagram of Turkish "KIRPI"
meaning "hedgehog" where there is an alteration of Turkic "K" into
Greek "V" and a restructuring of Turkish "KIRPI".

The name PORCUPINE, when rearranged letter-by-letter as "CIRPE-OPUN",
is an anagram of Turkish expression "KIRPI ADUN" meaning "your name is
hedgehog". Indeed a "porcupine" is a "hedgehog". In this anagram
Turkish sound represented with letter "D" has been replaced with a

Even the name "PORCUPINE ANTEATER", when rearranged letter-by-letter
as "PER-PORUNCA-IEANTE-T" or "PER-CORUNPA-IEANTE-T", is found to be an
anagram of the Turkish expression "PIR KARUNCA YIYENTI" (bir karinca
yiyendir) meaning "it is one anteater". Here we see that this English
name of "PORCUPINE ANTEATER" is very related to the Turkish expression
both in letter makeup and meaning.

The identification name ECHINOIDEA (voiced as EKINOIDEA) for this
class of animals is also made up from a Turkish expression. When
EKINOIDEA is rearranged as "DIKEN OIEA", and read phonetically as in
Turkish, it is a distorted form of the Turkish expression "DIKEN ÖYÜ"
meaning "house of thorns" referring to and describing the body of
these animals.

Even the name ECHIDNA (EKIDNA), when rearranged letter-by-letter as
"DIKEN A" is the distorted Turkish expression "DIKEN O" meaning "it is
thorn(s)" which refers to a bundle of thorns that an "ECHIDNA" is.
Thus this term ECHIDNA (EKIDNA), which is the name for a prickly
haired animal, is actually manufactured from the Turkish expression
"DIKEN O" meaning "it is thorn(s)" - a perfect description of an ECHIDNA.

The name ECHIDNA also has another aspect to it. It is a mythological
personality. Mythologically, ECHIDNA is defined as "the half-woman
and half-serpent, daughter of TARTARUS and GAEA, and mother of
CERBERUS, the HYDRA of Lerna, and NEMEAN LION. She was slain by the
hundred-eyed monster ARGUS". [103]

This story is a riddle and mostly personifications of different
concepts in Turkish but presented as Greek. We noted above that
hedgehog was personified as a sprite. But in this story, ECHIDNA is
not a "hedgehog". Here I present a new insight about its nature.

The expression "the half-woman and half-serpent" refers not to a
hedgehog aspect of the name but rather to something different. The
mythology writers have played games on ancient Turkish words.

ECHIDNA when rearranged letter-by-letter as "ECH-NADI" is an anagram
of Turkish expression "ECHE ANADI" meaning "it is great mother". This
makes the mythological personification a "woman".

However, "ECH-NADI" is also an anagram of Turkish phrase "IÇI ANADI"
or "IÇI ANADI" meaning "it is mother drink" which is "water". Turkish
word "IÇI" (içilen, "içmek" fiilinden) is the "drink". "Water" as a
life giver is a "mother" that comes out of the ground and runs through
the rocks like a giant serpent (viper, snake) In this regard, the
running water is personified as a "serpent". Riverbeds take the shape
of a giant serpent. Hence, mythologically, ECHIDNA is half-woman and
half-serpent due to its meanings in Turkish and by wordplay.

Mythologically, it is said that ECHIDNA is the daughter of TARTARUS
referring to "underground" and GAEA referring to "earth". The
underground waters come to the surface at springs between the rocks or
ground. The so-called Greek term GAEA is actually a distorted form of
the Turkish term "GAYA" (KAYA) meaning "rock" (earth is a big "rock")
which, in this case, personifies the "earth's crust". Thus the earth
and underground gives birth to water, hence, metaphorically become
parent to ECHIDNA the "drinking water".

In the story ECHIDNA (i.e., a personification of fresh water, drinking
water, running water) is said to be mother of "HYDRA" the mythological
serpent which again identifies with river beds.

The so-called mythological "NEMEAN LION" gives the false impression
that it really represents a "LION". In actuality it does not. The
term " NEMEAN LION" when rearranged as "NAMEN-IELON" is an anagram of
Turkish expression "NAMIN YALAN" meaning " your name is 'lie'", that
is, "your name is untruth", "your name is fabrication". Most so-called
Greek mythologies are nothing but fabrications using codified Turkish
expressions as names for the story characters.

The expression that "she was slain by the hundred-eyed monster ARGUS"
is also a riddle. The name ARGUS is actually an anagram of the
Turkish name "ARIGOZ" meaning "bee eye" or "bee eyed" referring to a
being having multiple-cell eye-system for vision. The BEE is such a
being who can see a very wide area which helps him to see flowers in
its pollen and honey gathering activity. However, ARGUS has another
meaning: it is also the anagram of the Turkish "RA-GUS" (Ra-Göz,
Re-Göz) meaning "the Sun-God EYE" referring to SUN as the eye of the
Sky-God. When river beds are dried up by the sun, they are
metaphorically killed by the SUN. Thus ARGUS is also the
personification of the Sun which sees all things in its own

In this analysis of the name "ECHION" and other Indo-European words
related to it, I presented new insights by exposing them as being
restructured and disguised Turkish words and expressions wrapped in a
blanket of misinformation. In other words, the etymology provided for
these terms is not truthful and ignores altogether their Turkic source
knowingly or unknowingly. This indicates that Turkish antedated Greek
and all other Indo-European languages and that Turkish was the widely
spoken dominant language of the ancient world. It is hoped that these
insights that I have explained here will shed new light on the
so-called Indo-European words and riddles and their origins.


[98] Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Fifth Edition, 1947, p. 898.
[99] The Reader's Digest Great Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1971, p. 1474.
[100] Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, Fifth Edition, 1947, p. 461.
[101] The Reader's Digest Great Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1971, p. 418.
[102] The Reader's Digest Great Encyclopedic Dictionary, 1971, p. 418.[103[
[103] Rhoda A. Hendricks, "Mythologies Of The World", McGraw-Hill Book
Company, New York, 1981, p. 57.

Best wishes to all,

Polat Kaya


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