Re: The roots of the term DEMOCRACY are from Turkish, Part-9

Dear petstamo,

You originally wrote me two emails back to back - and I responded to your second email only. In my response to you, I did not hide anything you wrote because your second email was only one sentence long ("
thank God, Russia prevented the Ottoman empire from seizing western Europe, otherwise we would all be calling refrigerators today as kallkan-dollap."). Take a good look at your inbox to see what I wrote you.  I only responded to your short second letter because I did not want to respond to your first letter unless you identified yourself. This is why I asked you to identify yourself. Yet, in your response back, you still did not identify your true name.  You are still hiding in the shadows. 

Additionally, when you responded to my response, you DID discard what I wrote to you. Just below is my first response to you (my writing is in blue) - yet you excluded my writing in your subsequent response (which is further below). 



Dear petstamo,
In this one sentence, you are talking politics and it does not make sense either. Evidently you have not even understood what I am talking about. If you identify
yourself, I will respond to your other letter. By the way, what I said in my reference posting is correct!
Polat Kaya,
petstamo wrote:
>thank God, Russia prevented the Ottoman empire from seizing western Europe, otherwise we would all be calling refrigerators today as kallkan-dollap.


Now I see that you are thankful to your God because "
Russia prevented the Ottoman empire from seizing western Europe, otherwise we would all be calling refrigerators today as kallkan-dollap".  Please tell me what is so wrong with calling "REFRIGERATORS" as "KALKAN DOLAP"? Are you allergic to it?  In fact, I would say it would have been better and more honest if it was called "KALKAN DOLAP" rather than REFRIGERATORS because this term is also an artificial term that is linguistically made up from a Turkish expression. Please note carefully as I explain:  

The Greek version of the term REFRIGERATOR is given as REPHRIDZERETOR (Divry's English - Greek and Greek - English Dictionary, 1988, p. 268).

Interestingly, when the Greek word REPHRIDZERETOR is rearranged letter-by-letter as "POZ-EDER-IERTHRR", we find to our surprise that this Greek word is actually made up, by way of anagrammatizing, from the Turkish expression "BUZ
EDER YERDIR" meaning "it is place where ice is made" This is exactly what a REPHRIDZERETOR is all about.  What a coincidence this is!  Even in this case, the whole world has been deceived and conned so that we do not know the true linguistic source of the Greek word REPHRIDZERETOR.  It seems that we are still calling "ice boxes", that is, REFRIGERATORS, by the Turkish composite name "BUZ EDER YERDIR" although in a camouflaged manner.  And how very much this resembles the deceptive make up of the term DEMOKRATIA that has been made up from the Turkish expression "ADAM IDARE" or "ADAM IDARESI"!  Now please think about this very carefully. 

Before finishing, I will say this again: I will not answer your questions and/or accusations in your letters unless you correct your unfriendly attitude AND identify your true identity. If I am going to respond to your allegations and spend time on it, I want to know who I am communicating with. 


Polat Kaya


petstamo wrote:

Dear Polat Kaya
Why did you hide my first argument and historical facts in my reply and only leave the last sentence? Isn't this concealment of facts?
I am talking about the part showing Ottoman tribes settled into Asia Minor some 2000 years after the word Democracy came to be used in Classical Greece. The last sentence is not meant for political purposes.
If you look at it that way, it is your own problem.
If Western culture would have been assimilated by Ottoman culture, from any possible, then, military invasion, then many of the words in western language would have been replaced with the Turkish counter-parts. What? If I hypothesize about such an assimilation, I am running into politics???
I have nothing against Turkey as of today. And I accept the sovereignty of any country. What I can't stand is the distortion of history that some people make, you including, by using some controversial methods. And such correctness is yet to be proven under other current or even future basis of reference.
And by the way, ADAM is a Hebrew word, from the old Testament, and not Turkish, which means the first man created by God, and he, ADAM, consequentially did not have any other people around him. If it has been adapted into Turkish later, then, it is another issue. So when you mention ADAM in your arguments, you should then give credit to Hebraic people also, for the Word Democracy, because there are facts they have been living in Greece some 1000 years BC.
This article will soon be discredited!
petstamo --- In, "Kamil KARTAL" <allingus@...> wrote:
--- In, Polat Kaya <tntr@C...> wrote:
"ARACHNE" ("ÖRÜNCEH"), "DEMOCRACY" Part-9: (Continued from Part-8)
DEMOCRACY is defined as the system of governing people by the people,
and according to Plato's definition, the ruling is done by many but
requires no virtue for those who rule. By way of majority election,
anyone and his/her associated group can be given the authority to rule
the people. The term DEMOCRACY is indicated to be from Greek "demokratia" which
itself is from Greek "demos" meaning "the people" plus "kratein" to
rule or "kratos" or authority. [34] The Greek term DEMOKRATIA, when decrypted letter-by-letter as
"ODEM-ITARA-K" or "ADAM-ITORE-K" and with k/c translation, is an
anagram of Turkish expression "ADAM ITARACu" (adam idareci) meaning
"Men (people) are the ruler". This is exactly the definition
attributed to the concept of so-called Greek "DEMOKRATIA". The Turkish
word "ADAM" means "man" and "IDARACU" means "one who rules", "the
ruler", "the manager or the administrator". Thus it is clear that the word "DEMOS" is not Greek in origin. On the
contrary it is from Turkish root word "ADAM" meaning "man".
a) The Greek term "DEMOS", when shown as "DEM OS", is an anagram of
the Turkish expression "aDAM US" meaning "wise man". "Man" (adam)
makes up the people. b) Additionally the term "DEMOS" in its shown form is an anagram of
the Turkish expression "aDAMUS" (ADAMUZ) meaning "we are men" or "we
are the people". Similarly, the Greek term "KRATOS" meaning "authority", which we
described earlier under PLUTOCRACY, was found to be the anagram of
Turkish words:
a) "KURUShTU" meaning "it is money".
b) "KuRUCuTU" (kurucudu) meaning "he is the founder". Thus again the Greek term "DEMOKRATIA" defined as being from "DEMOS +
KRATOS" is in fact from Turkish: "ADAM KURUSHTU" or "KURUSH ADAMTU" meaning "man is golden" (i.e., valuable man) or "it is the rich man". It could also be from "ADAM US KURUCUTU" meaning "wise man (people)
is the founder". By these Turkic definitions, the term "DEMOKRATIA" is a political
system where "people establish it and protect it". The man appearing
at the top can be anyone with any qualities. These definitions are
totally in line with the definition of "democracy". From this analysis, we find so much exact correspondence between these
"Greek" terms and the Turkic expressions that come up after they are
decrypted that one is forced to question the reason why such
correspondences are taking place. The answer is that when Greeks were
coining these so-called "Greek" terms, Turkish was there and it was
used as the source language from which these terms were manufactured. It is obvious that Greek linguists, as usual, took all the necessary
Turkish expressions, anagrammatized them and came up with the term
"DEMOKRATIA" while retaining the original Turkish meanings of the
expressions. Thus, it is clear that the simple technique of
"anagrammatizing" is a fantastic tool of "language" building. All one
needs to do is to take Turkish language expressions, shuffle the
letters and/or syllables of the expression, rearrange them in a word
suitable for the purpose, and make sure that new word does not
resemble the original Turkish text. Thus one has words for any
language he/she wants. Evidently, this was done by specially trained
people for all the so-called Indo-European and Semitic languages.
The English term DEMOCRACY, when decrypted as "ADEM CROCY", where Y is
really a U, is an anagram of Turkish expression "ADAM iCRACU" meaning
"man is the practicer", "man is the executer" or "man is the manager".
The Turkish term "ICRA" is labelled as an Arabic "term", yet it has
been very widely used in Ottoman Turkish. There must be a logical
reason for this shared usage of the "Arabic" language other than the
"Islamic" Religion. In the system of democracy, it also may mean that the electing people
do not really know what they are choosing, In this political ruling
system, the electors most often than not follow the crowd and/or the
propaganda made by the contenders without knowing much about the
candidates. In a way, it is a system in which "the blind leads the blind".
The result may turn out to be within the expectations of the electors
or beyond, that is, the elected official could be "a glowing man" or
"a blind man". This may be explained as follows: "DEMOKRATIA", when
rearranged as "KOR ADEM ATI" and DEMOCRACY, when rearranged as "COR
ADEMCY", where C is Turkic K, become an anagram of Turkish "KOR/KÖR
ADAM ADI" and "KOR/KÖR ADEMCU" (kor veya kör adamcu) respectively
meaning that the elected ruler may be a "FIRE man" (i.e., a Shining
Star) or a "BLIND man" (i.e., a "lame duck") as long as he/she was
elected by the majority .
Of course, the Turkish termes "KOR" and "KÖR" were two important the
adjectives used to describe the ancient Turanian sky-god OGUZ who was
regarded as having a "KOR" (fire-eye, i.e., Sun) and hence, the
"KÖR/GÖR" (seeing) eye, and a "KÖR" (blind-eye, i.e., Moon) eye.
After explaining the meanings that define the names of "demoktratia"
and "democracy", there are two more aspects that the Greek religious
anagrammatisers must have wanted to impress on these words in the form
of . "KRATOS" and "CRACY". The term "CRACY" is an anagram of the Turkish name "KARACU" (KARACI)
meaning "wanderer, gypsy". The name "GREEK" is said to be from Greek
term "GRAIKOS" [35] . But "GRAIKOS" is an anagram of Turkish
expression "GARA AI GÖZ" meaning "Black Moon Eye" indicating that they
are "black moon" believers just like the other wanderers of ancient
Arabistan. The Latin name for "Greek" was "GRAECUS" [36] which is
again an anagram of Turkish expressions: a) "GARACU" meaning "wanderer, gypsy", b) "GARA AYCU" meaning "black moon believer", c) "GARA AY GÖZ" meaning "black moon eye", and d) "GARA OGUZ" referring to the "black" aspect of the ancient Turanian
Sky God Oguz.
Hence, the Latin name "GRAECUS" is the same as the Greek "GRAIKOS".
The term "black moon eye" refers to the black Moon deity known as the
"blind eye" ("ULU KÖR GÖZ" anagrammatized into Greek "LYCURGUS") of
the ancient Turanian Sky-Father-God's left "eye" which was the "Moon".
The Sky-God's right-eye was the "Sun". Additionally Greeks are also known by the name "ELLEN" which is an
anagram of Turkish expression "yELLi-hEN" (Yelli Han) meaning
"Windy-Lord" or "YEL-hAN" meaning "Wind Lord" again indicating that
they were also believers of the "wind god" like other wanderers. Thus
they were "wanderers" before they became settled in what is presently
known as "Greece" which they took from the native Turanians. Thus the Greeks, for the above defined political systems which are
supposedly defined by the ancient Greeks as if they were all their own
invented concepts, put their name "KARACU" as a stamp on them in the
form "CRACY" or "KRATIA" endings. These endings identify the Greeks
with these systems while obliterating the Turkic origins of their
definitions altogether.
The second aspect of this ending is a religious one. The ancient
"wanderers" believed in "KRONUS" - an anagram of Turkish expression
"KARA-HAN US" meaning "Wise Black Lord" and/or "We are Black Lord
believers". The term "KRATOS" also represents this belief in "BLACK"
from Turkish "KARATU" meaning "it is black", or, "KARACUTU" meaning
"it is black believer". In this context, "KRATOS" is also an anagram
of Turkish expression "KARA ATA OS" (Kara Ata Oguz) meaning "Black
Father Oguz" referring to the "black aspect" of the ancient Turanian
trinity sky-god OGUZ where "SKY-GOD-OGUZ" has a duality nature,
i.e.,"AK-HAN OGUZ" (White Lord-Oguz) represented by the sun, light,
good, justice, fairness, tolerance, goodwill and general upright
behaviour; and "KARA-HAN OGUZ" (Black Lord Oguz) represented by the
lack of these. Together with the name OGUZ is also the term "AGUZ" meaning "mouth"
and "language, the word". In this context, the human "language" can
be in the form of "AK AGUZ", that is, "good, well wishing, praising,
tolerating and other similar language"; while "KARA AGUZ", would be
"ill wishing, intolerant, unfair, cursing, putdown, etc. language". Thus with the ending "KRATIA" in "DEMOKRATIA" which is also an anagram
of Turkish phrase "ADAM KARADI" meaning "man is believer of "black",
the "Religion of Black" is also identified". Hence, when "democracy"
is established in an area, the channels allowing the spread of the
"religion of black" is also established there under the guise of
"democracy". Evidently, those ancient cabalist religous-linguists were extremely
efficient in their manipulation of the Turkish language for political,
economic and social purposes.
>From evidences found in ancient "Greek" history, it is most likely
that it was the Ionians (Ay-Hans) rather than the "Greeks" that came
up with the idea of a democratic political system as they were much
more tolerant native peoples of ancient Yunanistan (Greece) than the
Greeks were. After the Greeks took over Ionians and assimilated them,
their culture was also taken over by the Greeks. It seems that among
the wanderers of the ancient past, it was the norm to live and mingle
with the ancient Turanians, all the while waiting for an opportune
time to take over, suppress, assimilate and obliterate the conquered
host in the process usurping everything that belonged to the host. REFERENCES:
[34]       Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 1947, p. 267.
[35]       Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 1947, p. 437.
[36]       Webster's Collegiate Dictionary, 1947, p. 437.
Best wishes to all,
Polat Kaya
January 04, 2004